Moving on from reserve through cover?, Rules question Options

[Rombo]

I did play Gazzie with Snikrot when the codex was young once, neither it was a great game or Gazzie did anything really impressive.

And as I said, Snikrot's rule is called AMBUSH, it says nothing about getting behind enemy lines. Think about the death star in the return of the jedi, it's not exactly an stealthy device but the empire actually used it to AMBUSH the rebel fleet. Or if you prefer another film reference that involves getting behind enemy lines with noisy machines I remember Clint Eastwood and Donald Shutherland stealthing into a town with a sherman tank, Kelly's heroes is the name of that movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065938/. And if that isn't enough you should remember that in this game U. Creed can hide a damn imperial baneblade behind a lamp post.

[Warboss Gorhack]

As I said, if you can explain it to yourself and your local gaming scene doesn't panic, go for it.

On the other hand, regardless of what you said, if you use Snikrot's ability to come on BEHIND the enemy then you are, by definition, BEHIND enemy lines. Unless you want to make the rather huge assumption that the enemy is always on the offensive in your games, and is driving you back in order to allow that Ghazzy in his mega-armor to lie in wait, then at some point he has to have stomped behind enemy lines.

I'd hardly use Kelly's Heroes as an example of what makes sense in war, or even wargaming. I will, however, remind you that they didn't sneak into the village until the Tigers were cranking their engines - "so they don't hear my Detroit Motors", to paraphrase Oddball (Donald Sutherland).

The Death Star ambush in "Return of the Jedi" only occurred because the Rebels mistakenly believed the thing was still under construction when it was fully operational. All in all it was a triumphantly successful Imperial deception plan at the strategic level that entailed the Rebels coming to the Death Star.

Both scenarios are rather different from a mega-armored Ork warboss trying to tromp undetected through enemy lines in two tons of noisy, smelly armor.

As far as Creed hiding a Baneblade behind a lamppost... can't say that I agree with your interpretation of the rules. However, if you're saying that the rules aren't always logical I can't argue. If this is what's needed to justify using a tactic that makes precious little fluff sense I certainly won't stop you. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

My two teef,

Warboss Gorhack

[Rombo]

the enemy is always on the offensive in your games

they didn't sneak into the village until the Tigers were cranking their engines - "so they don't hear my Detroit Motors"

the Rebels mistakenly believed the thing was still under construction when it was fully operational

That's Snikrot's work, this is a game were Chuck Norris would be just a regular grunt and special named characters do absurdly overpowered things. Having a cunning bastard able to fake a gap in the defenses so the enemy moves into his ambush, who knows to wait until the thunderhawks roar their engines before moving into the enemy's camp and who can disguise a fully operational Megarmored warboss so the enemy overlooks him doesn't look far fetched to me. Not more than Marneus killing Avatars without effort or Draigo carving names on primarch's hearts.