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> OONF! Air Strike - How to make a Grot Fighta Bomma from a Polikarp, Updated pics with exhausts and landing gear - Almost finished 16/06
Da Goff Rokker
post Jun 12 2006, 03:58 PM
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Here I am again with another vehicle for da OONF!, this time "wif some powa comin´ from da skyz!"

I present you with "Wazza Wizza", da Lukyest Air Grot! This lad will represent two Fast Attack entries in my KoS list: a Fighta Bomma Raid and a Mek Deffkopta with KFF and Super Stikkbombs. I will write some fluff for him later and even make an entry for Gashbad´s Big Race on the Arena Forum...

Now for the construction steps so far (just to make some suspense! biggrin2.gif ):

I´ve started with a Polikarpov I-16 kit, but using a 1:72 scale instead of the 1:48 one used by TheSnake (congrats to you, Snake, your wonderful model is the inspiration for mine!). It is made by an Ukranian company, is dirty cheap, very simple, very small, coming in one single sprue. Here´s a view of the box:

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With my scaphandrist grot as a Barry to show the comparative size of the hull:

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The first step is widening the cockpit opening to fit the Grot inside it. The plastic of this kit is very thin and cuts easly. If someone uses it, just a tip: this plastic melts VERY easly with poli-cement, so take care while glueing it!

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Then you proceed with the assembling of the kit as the way it is meant, in a very straight-foward way, since I think the Polikarpov is has a very Orky feeling in it (well, Groty feeling at this size... loveemoticon.gif The thing is sooo damn cute!).

I haven´t taken much pics of this process since my camera´s batteries went down, and when recharched it was quite finished. The Grot is already glued in its place (which I regret later, since it was a pain to model the rest with him glued in place! Very stoopid of me) over a small piece of plasticard that runs perpendicular to the fuselage. The Grot has a Night Gobbo head with the hood tip shaved, some googles modeled with GS (I HATE GREEN STUFF!), one hand with a spear tip cut off to make the manche and the other one holding a Gorkamorka Kustum-Double-Barreled-Slugga. Note that in one pic there is already a plasticard support for the engine, and that I´ve cut the round tips of the wings:

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That thing will need a hulking big engine, since I will keep the WWII look of it and use propellors instead of jets. So I scratchbuilded a V6 engine for it - in fact a V4 - remember, this is a weedy grot plane! If you want to know how I´ve made it, please take a look on my other post - Scratchbuilt Engines 101.

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The propellor that come with the kit is very weedy, so I made a new one out of plasticard. Very straight-foward approach here too: cut the blades from 1.5mm plasticard, glue them to one of those round "things" that come in the sprues (the plastic feeding tubes to the mold), some rivvits and then glue the thing to the plane front engine cover:

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With the engine in place, it´s time to cover the wings with platicard for the armor plates. For this I´ve used the thinner plasticard I have, which is 0.5mm, but it is still very stiff for such tiny bends. So I´ve cut larger lates, glue them on top of the wing and waits for it to dry:

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After one hour or so, I put glue on the inner side of the plates and then bend it to place, around the wings edge, like this (note the sloppiness of the work, with lots of glue spillage):

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With everything settled and the glue dry, I sanded everything (lots of glue fingerprints) and put some other plates at the belly to hide the crappy plating work on the underside (the landing gear doors and some glyphs with Wazza Wizza name):

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... To be continued in the next post (sorry, too much pics!)
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post Jun 12 2006, 03:59 PM
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its lookin' veryy good so far, the grot and the engine both look very very good, nice work on those ones.

have you seen someones (TheSnake's?) thread, how to loot a polikarpov?

same plane but on a bigger scale.

yours' wings look very similar to TheSnake's (if it was infact his)

go with the green wheel and end the exhausts with going straight back with a BIG heat shielding/muffler thing.

EDIT soory to jump in between your two posts.


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Da Goff Rokker
post Jun 12 2006, 04:46 PM
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... Continuing... (Dear Mods/Nobs, if this is against the rules of the board, I apologize, and feel free to remove the pics. I worked on the first attempt, but when I edited the post it reported an error)

Now its time for some instruments for the grot: an altimeter (just to know if he is too close to the ground) and a big red button to "drop da bombs!". It is made from the top engine cover of the kit, two big punched rivvitz, a thin strip of plasticard and one "round sprue thing":

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From now on I will keep you guys updated with the progress, and all your critics and comments will be more than welcome!

Now some questions to see your opinions:

1) This plane originally has a fixed tail wheel as landing gear. Do you think that I should make one? Not using the weedy one that comes with the kit, but one of those as the pic below:

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What do you think? No wheel, the white one (more "aircraft wheel" look) or the green one (more orky tires)

2) I need to make the engine exhausts (WIP pic below, note the plastic rod sticking out of the engine side):

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How do you think I should "end" them? Like in the pic or should I bend them to point upwards? Bear in mind that this exhaust is still wip, just for you guys to get the shape, since I will connect some plastic tubing or a shoota barrel to its end.


Well, thats it so far! cheers.gif

As already stated, C&C are welcome!

Cheers! cheers.gif

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post Jun 12 2006, 05:32 PM
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ermh... v4 engine... bwahahahaha, grotty! absolutely wonderful!
I like it alot man,,, might start a plane myself when I finish the ton of stuff backlogged smilingOrk.gif
But I'm thinking more on the lines of a wwii japanese zero


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post Jun 13 2006, 06:23 AM
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loveemoticon.gif the grot's goggles!

I think the exhaust should follow the lines of the plane, like so:

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post Jun 13 2006, 06:55 AM
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Orks in planes is scary, grotz is planes is even scarier.
Still your off to a good start but how are you gonna field it, as a fighta or as a grotbomb.
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post Jun 13 2006, 07:03 AM
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That's a whole lotta engine wasted on a grot! Good stuff though, you are managing to carry the theme of your army across very successfully.

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post Jun 13 2006, 08:30 AM
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Sweet, that is truely mad, love it, can we see some more pics of it when you finish please? cheers.gif
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post Jun 13 2006, 08:47 AM
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laughingOrk.gif Hey look, a baby Polykarpov laughingOrk.gif

Nice work thumbs.gif That engine is really creative. I would put a little more details though(sp?), like spark plug cables, oil lines... Will have to loot the propeller for my own Polykarpov winkingOrk.gif

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Da Goff Rokker
post Jun 13 2006, 10:19 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback, guys, I will post pics of the progress more regularly from now on...

Before replying to all comments, another question: Where do you guys think I should mount the Twin Linked Big Shootas? Below the wings or on their tips? I think that those are the only available spaces, but if you think of somewhere else, please tell me! ideaork.gif thumbs.gif

Again, what do you think of the side exhausts (following the lines of the plane or upwards) and the rear landing wheel (none, the white one or the green one)? Only Doi and Bozo make their coments, and I wish as much feedback on this as I can, since I could not make my mind... crybaby.gif

@Bozo: Thanks, mate! thumbs.gif In fact, you replied after my original post, but when I edited it to put the link to my Engine 101 thread the board reported an error and I have to split it in two, and the second part went after your post...

@Frankye: I tought about a Zero too (love that "broken" wings!), but on a 1:72 scale it is too thin and long, and a Polikarpov is more bulky, smaller and orky. For the second one I should attempt a Biplane variant of the Polikarpov, which I think will look nice too!

@ Dai: Hehehe, I tried to sculpt them with GS, but they turned out crappy (like everything I do with GS!), so I glued 2 rivvitz on his face to act as lenses, and it turned out better than I tought!

@ Dreachon: Wazza-Wizza da Grot started his carreer as a Grot Bomb pilot, but after returning to the camp miraculously unharmed after 3 very successful launches, the Big Mek was amazed by the skill and sheer luckiness of the little fella and decided not to waste such talent, making for him a small bomma so he could "drop his load" a little bit more safely and return home... I will field him as a Fighta-Bomma Raid and a Mekboy Deffkopta with super stickbombs. Not so sure about a KFF since there are no space left in it to model this...

@ Scarpia: Hehehehe, but he his a VERY talented Grot! whip.gif And remember, this is no propa V6 engine, just a "V4" weedy one... thumbs.gif And thanks for the compliments! Your models are a great inspiration to the composition of my army!

@ Pinky: Sure enough! I will keep you guys updated on the development!

@ TheSnake: ROFL! laughingOrk.gif laughingOrk.gif laughingOrk.gif laughingOrk.gif A BABY POLYKARPOV! That is genius! When my baby Polykarpov grows up all he wants to be is a "TheSnake´s Propa Polykarpov"! Really your model is a great inspiration to mine, and I hope you dont mind me having "looted" it! thumbs.gif

As for the details on the engine, I know it needs a little more details and I will try something, but when I put the side exhausts I think that there will be no space left to put enything... The thing is so small that is very difficult to handle, and with my very stupid idea of glueing the pilot in the early stages of the constructon the difficult level was even higher!

Well, keep up the C&C and thanks for the ideas so far!

Cheers! cheers.gif

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post Jun 13 2006, 12:04 PM
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Lovely looking bomma Rokker. cheers.gif

The scratch built engine is great, though as The Snake says, some fuel lines and extra details will really make it shine. thumbs.gif

I'd mount the guns under the wings, midway along them. Am not sure about the undercarriage. I think a pair of skis, with maybe a small wheel at the rear, would look more orky.

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post Jun 13 2006, 06:31 PM
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lovving it... but since grotz in planz is comonly used as piloted bobs, and this grot is acually fighting with it, i would add two things, explosives... somewhere... so if he goes down he explodes right in da beakiez facez, and a gun, as he is a fighta bomma. dakka.gif


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post Jun 13 2006, 07:52 PM
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I'm drunk so watch out, but I would say use the green wheel and place the shoota's mid way under the wings and forget about adding any further landing gear.

Spark plugs and cables etc can be added if you wish, but it would look like a gem in any army as is. Told my mates about this tonight so there are three of us here now looking over your work, we are all impressed with what you have accomplished, truely amazing, keep it up.
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post Jun 13 2006, 09:07 PM
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nice work so far, rokker!

i'll go with the guns on the ends of the wings, just because that seems to me to be the more kool way to mount them. it'd also mean you could add proper landing gear [ie, skis!] without having to worry about the space the guns take up, or getting in the way of the gun mounts. i'd also go for either the green wheel or a smaller ski for the tail. the explosives for "just in case..." sounds pretty funny as well.

keep up the good work!


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post Jun 13 2006, 09:24 PM
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Nice looking plane you've got there thumbs.gif

I think for the big shootas they'd look good on the sides of the fuselage if there's enough space. They could be set up to fire inbetween the propellor blades like some of the old fighter planes.

I also think the exhausts would look good with a big, perforated cowelling thing.

Both of these ideas are inthe photo below.


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post Jun 14 2006, 02:21 AM
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I reckon use the green wheel for the landing gear and mount the guns mid-way along the wings

Keep up the good work thumbs.gif It's great inspiration cheers.gif


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post Jun 14 2006, 10:23 AM
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Great model!!! thumbs.gif

this idea is brilliant..
may i loot this idea? winkingOrk.gif

i´m looking forward seeing your whole army soon...
great concept...


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post Jun 15 2006, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(Da Goff Rokker @ Jun 13 2006, 07:49 AM) [snapback]280139[/snapback]

Before replying to all comments, another question: Where do you guys think I should mount the Twin Linked Big Shootas? Below the wings or on their tips? I think that those are the only available spaces, but if you think of somewhere else, please tell me! ideaork.gif thumbs.gif


I think the tips are too weedy. I'd go with below the wings or on the fuselage as was just mentioned. Also, big shootas might look too big - regular shootas should do the job. Compared to the rest of the plane, they'd look big enough. See Krooza's grot mini-fighter for inspiration if you feel like it.

QUOTE(Da Goff Rokker @ Jun 13 2006, 07:49 AM) [snapback]280139[/snapback]

Again, what do you think of the side exhausts (following the lines of the plane or upwards) and the rear landing wheel (none, the white one or the green one)?


I like your current exhaust set-up. It looks good.

No wheel is fine - landing gear tends to detract from the model's looks somehow, despite adding realism.


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post Jun 15 2006, 06:56 AM
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awesome! im gonna buy some of those planes, form my fly-waagh! as bikes smilingOrk.gif

thanks for the engine - help

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post Jun 16 2006, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback, guys!

Here are some updated pics of the Polikarpov Fighta-Bomma:

Details of the tail landing gear (I´ve decided to go with the white wheel, the green one looked krappy, too thin)
Don´t be afraid of the gap in the side engine, this will be fixed later, and more details will be added to the engine too:

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Exhausts parts and assembled pics, as per your suggestions:

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Almost finished view, with the tail wings already cladded in plasticard:

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Now I will have to wait for the final touches: the Twin linked big-shootas, which will be mounted on its sides or below the hull (depending on its size, will have to wait till I receive them from GW) and a crapload of bombs attached to the wings and belly (waiting too for a friend to cast me some in resin).

C&C are welcome!

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